Archive for April, 2016
GEVA MINUTES 4/10/16
Minutes from 3/13/16 were read and approved.
Wayne reported that he had talked to Damian Herd, the Nissan representative for EV Sales Operations. She said that they are interested in promoting EV charging stations and especially workplace charging stations. They want to work with businesses, universities and schools. Wayne asked if the chargers at Nissan dealers are open to any EV. She replied that the dealers decide who can charge, but the chargers are there for Nissan owners only. Wayne asked if Nissan had any interest in chargers between cities and she said no. She said that Ameren has recently changed their position and is now interested in promoting chargers in the St. Louis area.
Kyle reported that the ChadeMo charger will work on Nissan and Tesla. Also, that the Avcon charger has a square handle but the charging protocol is the same as ChadeMo.
Cliff said that in the 90’s, California GM EV1 chargers were located in grocery stores.
Norm said that Tesla gives free “destination chargers” to businesses but only Tesla can use them. This is because they read the serial number of the car.
Wayne asked for suggestions of locations to put in charging stations through the crowd funded ChargeStarter program. Cliff said that Southwest Ave is open to Schlafely bottle works in Maplewood and that may be a good location for a charger. They have been interested in supporting EVs and have hosted our club in the past. Kyle said he could talk to them. Wayne also suggested South County Mall as a possible charging location.
Tyler suggested that our club contact Green Dining Alliance , Atomic Cowboy, and Urban Chestnut as businesses interested in the environment. They would be good locations for charging stations.
Norm gave an update on the Tesla Model 3. It is designed to be “manufactured” so it can be quickly ramped up in production. There have been over 300,000 pre-orders. It has about a 60KWH pack good for over 200miles per charge. Base price is $35,000.
Earth Day April 24 was discussed. Ron, Kyle, Ken, Jim, Dennis, and Wayne plan to bring their vehicles. The Tesla group plans to bring 2 vehicles.
Wayne gave a talk on “The Use and Adoption of Electric Vehicles”. Tyler commented that electric Postal vehicles may have problems with controllers because of the stop and go driving. Kyle remarked that battery storage and charging for EVs will get better so the limitations of charge time and range will be less of a problem compared to gas powered vehicles. Dave said that Tesla now has 3000 superchargers across the country and is planning to double that by next year.
GEVA MINUTES 3/13/16
Minutes from 1/10/16 were read and approved.
Tyler said that he has a contact with Ameren MO. They have 9 charging stations for employees and are collecting data of the EVs parked in the lot. Norm said that the relative cost of electricity is small and that it was 10 cents/KWH 100 years ago. This is about the same as it is today.
Alessandro said that Ameren MO is a good company to help put in chargers since they have unused power at night when most EV charging occurs. Ameren IL has a different rate structure than Ameren MO.
Tyler told the club that new electric rates are coming soon. He made a suggestion that the club could promote the EV infrastructure by checking out the current charge stations and publishing the ones that are working and not working. People using EVs get frustrated when a charging station is not working because many times they depend on the charge to make it to another station or home.
There was a question about the cost and finding someone to put in a Level 2 (220VAC) charging station at home. Tyler suggested that one option is to buy a charging station with a standard plug and have a electrician just install the outlet. Another is to buy a charger from Home Depot or Lowes and have them do the installation. They already have contractors.
Wayne said that EV users should use some kind of tag to indicate the intent when using public charging. The tag should indicate if the charging is done for opportunity or necessary and if someone else can unplug their vehicle and use the EVSE. Dale suggested that the Electric Auto Association (EAA) promote the rules of charging.
Ken reported on the St. Louis Auto Show in January. Tesla had their new AutoDrive vehicle and it drew a crowd. Kyle’s Think EV was popular and many people wanted to touch it since the body panels are made of ABS plastic. The gokart was popular since it was next to the Tesla exhibit and near the isle. It was a good photo opportunity for children -as they like to sit in it.
Dale said that parking garages should have free EV charging signs near existing 120V outlets.
Alessandro mentioned that free EV charging today is in a similar state to WiFi a few years ago. WiFi started as a paid service but now the public demands it for free.
Jim said that he received a letter recently about his Nissan Leaf. It said that the 2G car wings software is no longer available. It was only available from 2011 – 2014.
Wayne and Dale gave a presentation on the “Performance of a Battery Heating System”.